Does Graston scraping hurt?

What is the difference between Graston and scraping?

I am working on getting my hand and body into the proper form for throwing the disc.

There are a couple of questions that I have about this process: ? Graston or scraping would be one of two options (depending on your location) to develop power in your throws. I believe they both include some sort of friction with the wrist to teach you where the disc lands, and both include a lot of wrist snaps, which are supposed to teach you the correct mechanics.

Now, I have had good success with both methods, and will probably use both in the future. But, what are the differences between the two, and which method should I use? I will try to describe them as best I can, but if there is anything that I don't understand, please feel free to ask! (It seems as if those posts are just a month or so old, so I would hate to be repetitive, but I don't want to be!). I'm new to the topic. Do either of those two methods have any advantage over the other? Is there one that's better? Is one faster? More effective? Or are they completely equal? What is the difference? And. What about wrist snaps? If it's ok, I'd like to put a list of my questions/differences between the two. Graston - When it's time to "go home" (in the sense of learning how to throw harder) and your throwing partner is "grastonting" the disc back to you, should the graston be straight down into the ground, or at angle? Scraping - When it's time to "go home", and your throwing partner is scraping the disc out of your hand, should the scrapers be straight down into the ground, or at angle? Wrist snaps - When it's time to "go home", and your throwing partner is simply snapping your wrist on each throw, should the wrist snaps be straight down into the ground, or at angle? Should you snap your wrist, or just throw?

Is Graston better than massage?

- what would you suggest?

I have never been overly bothered by any stiffness or soreness in my hips but I am thinking of doing a Graston to try and ease things up. Is this something that will help, is it more effective than massage or is this just a bit of fun! You should not expect anything of Graston but rather it's main purpose is to allow for deep tissue stretching into the deeper layers of muscle. I'd agree with JV and get a proper assessment, even an x-ray is better than a quick look at pain symptoms. As far as massage and soft tissue massage they both do the same thing but they both are quite different and do it differently. The difference between deep and superficial is quite obvious but in many ways they are quite similar when using them properly

I think the best way to know if it helps is actually to do it, see what you think after a few treatments. That's my experience of this type of treatment.

Just to add: if you decide to do the Graston, one important thing to remember is that you should stop the treatment as soon as you feel a reduction in pain. This can sometimes take an hour or so (or even longer), and you may notice it until later. So you will have to assess pain levels and progress regularly during the course. And the usual caveat: only use it if you have had the benefit of a proper assessment and diagnosis, with no contraindications, and you are clear on its risks and benefits.

Thank you for the reply on this thread, it is really good to know what is the consensus view about these two treatment methods. I have done an assessment from a physiotherapist who thought I might need a graston machine. He did tell me that he found it hard to get anyone to use a graston machine in his practice due to perceived negative image of it. I'm just worried that it sounds like this type of treatment might be mainly used for people with chronic conditions, not sure if this is the right thing to think. But I'm going to visit another physiotherapist and give the same assessment. This is a really good discussion topic because I can't seem to find much info about graston machines anywhere else.

Does the Graston technique actually work?

A systematic review of long-term results.

The Graston technique, a simple method to minimise donor site morbidity, is widely used. The Graston technique involves harvesting cancellous bone from the anterior iliac crest and reaming the bore down to the outer cortex of the iliac bone. Despite many reports of excellent clinical results, it remains unclear whether the technique really leads to lower levels of pain and morbidity compared with other techniques. To assess the scientific quality of published studies reporting clinical outcomes of the Graston technique compared with other techniques. Systematic search strategy of the PubMed and EMBASE databases to locate any studies using the Graston technique. The following terms were used: "Graston", "iliac crest", "bone grafting", "resection arthroplasty", "corticotomy", "correlative technique". This search was not limited to any date or language. Data from selected full-text articles were extracted and assessed for inclusion in the systematic review. For all selected articles, the Cochrane Reviewers' Handbook was used as guidance for assessing the scientific quality of the included studies, using the GRADE (Grading of Recommendations Assessment, Development, and Evaluation) approach. Quality was graded according to the risk of bias, inconsistency, indirectness, imprecision, and publication bias. Data regarding the rate of complications was extracted from the reviewed articles. Thirteen articles fulfilled the inclusion criteria. These reported on 2357 patients who underwent the Graston technique, with a mean follow-up of 6.9 years. After a median follow-up of 4.5 years, the reported complications were infection (1.8%), hip dislocation (1.3%), fracture (0.2%), and femoral head collapse (0.2%), The reported failure rate was 1.8%) The estimated revision rate for aseptic loosening was 3.9-6.0). Overall results were reported by five reviewers, and were graded as fair, with a major limitation due to low numbers of patients in some of the included studies. Based on our systematic review, there was no convincing evidence to suggest that the Graston technique was more effective than alternative methods. There was no convincing evidence to show that the Graston technique had superior clinical outcomes to other techniques. However, the included studies lacked the necessary power to analyse the efficacy of this technique over other methods.

Does Graston scraping hurt?

I had a friend that was in the Graston Clinic in the mid 80's.

I think it was '87, when the clinic started using the new laser. He had his fourth or fifth treatment and had it done in the office. He was out for weeks. Did anyone ever experience that before or since? I think they told him it was no big deal, but if it did hurt he would have known right away. Thanks for your responses.

The Graston system is designed to help reduce the size of the cyst in the glenoid fossa, it has absolutely no intention of healing anything. It is a form of "pump and dump" - just like the "pump" part of the procedure is there to help clear the fluid which collects in the glenoid cavity. The "dump" part of the procedure takes away that fluid and you go home - it never hurts, it's just uncomfortable for a while - and you are back to normal.

You could say that, but when I had my first treatment, it felt like someone hit me in the face with a hammer. I couldn't talk for two days and they had to do surgery on me to get me breathing again. I didn't even realize how much I had been drinking. After the second time, my nose started leaking blood and my doctor said I was bleeding from the sinuses. I think my first three treatments were done on the arm and two on the shoulder. I went in the summer.

I had an old doc refer to it as "dumping cyst fluid" as a way to describe what they do. The laser is just there to help them do that quicker. The "pump" part is the drilling part. My old doc said they only needed to do the "pump" part 2-3 times and they were done.